to have a president who represents us, who speaks to us and who fight for us. >> it's an interesting point here because you know, one of the things that allows the president to have not only an electoral college victory but a popular vote victory is that folks in plays like new york and louisiana and so-called safe red and blue states nonetheless showed up to vote for the president even though at the presidential level their vote didn't count in the same way. yet, it makes a big difference if he wins with a popular mandate and an electoral college win. >> you're absolutely right in your opening remarks, people are not going to be denied the right to vote. people are not going to be denied -- when you start talking about voter suppression and all going on, people said we're going to show we're going to stand and vote. we're not going to let people take away our rights. it is about issues. people are spectacular the. whether you're poor, some people think that poor people are not smart people, they're very smart and understand there is -- >> they understand their interests and who repr